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Paragon of Confusion: Why should female circumcision not be comparable to male circumcision?

widdershinsgirl:

freedominwickedness:

random-guy-on-teh-interwebz:

It’s a claim that I have come across often during the circumcision debate. Namely, that female circumcision is an atrocity, that cannot be tolerated at all. OK, I can agree to that. Yet once I say “It’s like male circumcision” some people say “it doesn’t compare at all how dare you”.

So can…

Type I FGM — the mildest common form — consists of removal of the clitoral hood and the clitoris itself, making it equivalent to chopping off your entire penis.

In Type II FGM, the inner labia is also removed.

In Type III FGM, the entire labia is removed and the wound is fused shut, leaving only a tiny hole for pee.

Reblogging for truth bomb. Circumcision of the penis is not in ANY WAY comparable to FGM.

In my perspective this comparison is typically denied because of cultural and gender bias. I know it’s difficult to ascertain people’s behind-the-scenes reasoning, but that has been my impression based on my time reading and blogging about the issue. The best evidence I can give for my perspective is the frequent knee-jerk and EMPHATIC fashion in which this comparison is rejected, often by those who seem to know little about either practice, as well the fact that some people are actually offended by the comparison.

So here’s a complete and accurate breakdown of FGM classification. It should also be noted that, to my knowledge, all of these are prevalent. (In other words, it isn’t the case that one or two of these are the most common while the others are rare.)

  • Type III - Much more damaging and harmful than male circumcision. Along with the drastic tissue amputation the wound is sealed to act as a permanent chastity belt until it is reopened upon marriage, and perhaps also before childbirth. As bad as all forms of genital cutting are, this is that much more traumatic, invasive, and potentially life-threatening in terms of health risks. Perhaps this is what some people think of when discussing FGM vs. male circumcision, whereas there’s considerable variety within FGM.
  • Type II - Another relatively more extensive form genital excision.
  • Type I - Here’s where freedominwickedness is incorrect. Type I “is the removal of the clitoral hood (Type Ia); or the partial or total removal of the clitoris, a clitoridectomy (Type Ib)”. This is a lot more in line with male circumcision, which is a lot more extensive and damaging than many people realize or are willing to acknowledge.
  • Type IV - Yet another category, that is described as “all other harmful procedures to the female genitalia for non-medical purposes, for example, pricking, piercing, incising, scraping and cauterization.” A lot of this refers to the type of female genital mutilation that happens in Malaysia and Indonesia. This is good example of something that would probably be classified as Type IV, although beware that the page has graphic photos. This form of FGM is perhaps less extensive and damage than male circumcision, and is certainly less damaging than Type III.

Now the whole thing with ALL of these practices is that they are WAY past the line of what should be allowed to be done to children. We have no qualms about Type IV or even Type I being included with Type III and Type II, so why are we continuing to ignore the seriousness of the genital mutilation practice known as male circumcision?

  1. nhizo reblogged this from widdershinsgirl and added:
    They’re both horrible, but FGM is waaaaaay worse.
  2. trilliansthoughts answered: I don’t appreciate you re-posting my blog as a “Paragon Of Confusion”. For me, this is just musing on my own thoughts and upbringing. I have
  3. disastrid reblogged this from legalizeforeskin and added:
    Reblogged for the number of interesting material via the links. I still feel there is a difference between the two....
  4. random-guy-on-teh-interwebz reblogged this from widdershinsgirl and added:
    agree that certain types...female circumcisions have worse repercussions than male...
  5. entropyandflux reblogged this from starvingstarling and added:
    yeah, in type one you may still be able to orgasm and have a perfectly okay sex life (remember the external clitoris is...
  6. derinthemadscientist answered: I didn’t say it was castration, I said it was more comparable in the level of pain and mutilation than it is to male circumcision.
  7. starvingstarling reblogged this from little-coyote
  8. widdershinsgirl reblogged this from random-guy-on-teh-interwebz and added:
    Male circumcision impairs by a relatively minor and arguable degree sexual pleasure. It’s not ethical, but it’s not the...
  9. awhooshingsound reblogged this from little-coyote
  10. derinthemadscientist reblogged this from freedominwickedness and added:
    We can compare female circumcision to various types of male castration. That comparison would make sense.
  11. legalizeforeskin reblogged this from disastrid and added:
    Let me declare my acceptance of the challenge issued at the end of your post. I’d define the key
  12. oh-your-god answered: My understanding is that FGM causes permanent nerve damage while MGM doesn’t.
  13. jekell-wolf reblogged this from aurif3x
  14. thexygal answered: It is an unnessicary and irreversible procedure preformed on a child without consent. Comparison ends there.
  15. bluetrafficlight reblogged this from cobblepot
  16. cobblepot reblogged this from widdershinsgirl and added:
    Actually, that list in incomplete, and doesn’t contain the subset within types. There are in fact 4 Types of FGM, and...
  17. fractalcaster reblogged this from widdershinsgirl
  18. tapewarm answered: the penis still functions perfectly fine after circumcision while the clitoris is completely removed, not really comparable.
  19. disastrid answered: Hey, I found I couldn’t explain my thoughts in 140 characters, so I just reblogged with my response. I’d be interested in your thoughts.
  20. rainbowgenderpunk answered: fgm is often done to “keep girls pure”; female orgasms are viewed as shameful. still, infant circumcision should be fucking illegal.
  21. life-in-neon reblogged this from freedominwickedness
  22. sledgehammertoe answered: Penile circumsision has health benefits as well, most well-known being that circumsized men who are HIV+ are less likely to spread the virus.
  23. freedominwickedness reblogged this from random-guy-on-teh-interwebz and added:
    mildest common form — consists of removal of...clitoris itself, making
  24. freedominwickedness answered: The short answer is, “Because even the mildest form of FGM is a far more extensive operation than male circumcision.”
  25. random-guy-on-teh-interwebz posted this

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